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Naval War HQ created the topic: Guadalcanal Battles

7 years 5 months ago

So, with the european theatre reinforced by the French and Italians, it seems about time to revisit the Pacific.

Obvious choice for the next OOB is the battles around Guadalcanal:

- Battle of Savo Island
- Battle of the Eastern Solomons
- Battle of Cape Esperance
- Battle of the Santa Cruz Islands
- 1st Naval Battle of Guadalcanal
- 2nd Naval battle of Guadalcanal
- Battle of Tassafaronga
- Battle of Rennell Island

To prevent the OOB to be too generic or too large, one idea would be to group the battles into two OOB, surface actions and carrier battles? Since there is a lot of overlap in the OOB's it allows the focus of the first to be around cruisers and battleships while the second focuses on the carriers.

Any more ideas or suggestions?


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Pugliese replied the topic: Guadalcanal Battles

7 years 5 months ago

That sounds like a reasonable way of doing things, particularly in light of the fact that each of those actions would be getting a small writeup in the history section. I would suggest though including a timeline of all the actions in each of the two halves so that people can still have a better appreciation of where each one fits within the whole. (And if, say, they thought about running each of the scenarios as part of persistent campaign, it might be easier)

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Naval War HQ replied the topic: Guadalcanal Battles

7 years 5 months ago

Ok, I think I figured out the US ships for the Guadalcanal battles, is anyone able to double check these?

Maybe I missed them, but were there any US subs active in these battles? Or were they already busy sinking the Japanese merchant fleet by then?

US Forces around GuadalcanalBattle of Savo IslandBattle of the Eastern SolomonsBattle of Cape EsperanceBattle of the Santa Cruz Islands1st Naval Battle of Guadal-canal2nd Naval battle of Guadal-canalBattle of Tassa-farongaBattle of Rennell Island
North Carolina-class Battleship
USS North CarolinaX
USS WashingtonX
South Dakota-class Battleship
USS South DakotaXX
Lexington-class Fleet Carrier
USS SaratogaX
Wasp-class Fleet Carrier
USS WaspX
Yorktown-class Fleet Carrier
USS EnterpriseXX
USS HornetX
Sangamon-class Escort Carrier
USS ChenangoX
USS SuwanneeX
New Orleans-class Heavy Cruiser
USS AstoriaX
USS MinneapolisXX
USS New OrleansXX
USS QuincyX
USS San FranciscoXXX
USS VincennesX
Northampton-class Heavy Cruiser
USS ChicagoXX
USS LouisvilleX
USS NorthamptonXX
Pensacola-class Heavy Cruiser
USS PensacolaXX
USS Salt Lake CityXX
Portland-class Heavy Cruiser
USS PortlandXXX
Wichita-class Heavy Cruiser
USS WichitaX
County-class Heavy Cruiser
HMAS CanberraX
HMAS AustraliaX
Atlanta-class Light Cruiser
USS AtlantaXX
USS JuneauXX
USS San DiegoX
USS San JuanXXX
Brooklyn-class Light Cruiser
USS BoiseX
USS HonoluluX
Cleveland-class Light Cruiser
USS ColumbiaX
USS ClevelandX
USS MontpelierX
St. Louis-class Light Cruiser
USS HelenaXX
Leander-class (mod) Light Cruiser
HMAS HobartX
Bagley-class Destroyer
USS BagleyX
USS BlueX
USS HelmX
USS Jarvis
USS PattersonX
USS Ralph TalbotX
US Forces around GuadalcanalBattle of Savo IslandBattle of the Eastern SolomonsBattle of Cape EsperanceBattle of the Santa Cruz Islands1st Naval Battle of Guadal-canal2nd Naval battle of Guadal-canalBattle of Tassa-farongaBattle of Rennell Island
Benham-class Destroyer
USS BenhamXX
USS ElletX
USS LangX
USS StackX
USS SterettXX
USS WilsonX
Benson-class Destroyer (Early)
USS BartonXX
USS FarenholtXX
Benson-class Destroyer (Late)
USS FrazierX
USS LaffeyXX
USS MaedeX
Farragut-class Destroyer
USS DaleX
USS FarragutX
USS MacdonoughX
USS WordenX
Fletcher-class Destroyer
USS ChevalierX
USS ConwayX
USS FletcherXX
USS La ValletteX
USS O'BannonX
USS TaylorX
USS WallerX
Gleaves-class Destroyer (Early)
USS Aaron WardXX
USS BuchananXXX
USS GraysonX
USS GwinX
USS LardnerX
USS McCallaX
USS MonssenXXX
Gleaves-class Destroyer (Late)
USS DuncanX
USS EdwardsX
Gridley-class Destroyer
USS MauryXXX
Mahan-class Destroyer
USS ConynghamX
USS CushingXX
USS DraytonX
USS LamsonX
USS MahanX
USS PerkinsX
USS PrestonXX
USS ShawX
USS SmithX
Porter-class Destroyer
USS BalchX
USS PhelpsX
USS PorterX
USS SelfridgeX
Sims-class Destroyer
USS AndersonX
USS HughesX
USS MorrisX
USS MustinX
USS RussellX
USS WalkeX


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Naval War HQ replied the topic: Guadalcanal Battles

7 years 4 months ago

For those that want to give the Guadalcanal battles a try already, I've uploaded the datacards for the US Guadalcanal ships in the US zip-file.


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Pugliese replied the topic: Guadalcanal Battles

7 years 4 months ago

I got swamped with the Holidays between work and family, and I'm just now getting some free time to start looking at things again. What sorts of things could people be doing to help along this OOB?

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Naval War HQ replied the topic: Guadalcanal Battles

7 years 3 months ago

Hope you have enjoyed the holydays. One thing that would be really helpfull is scenario's... I'm not that great at coming up with them and the Guadalcanal battles really scream scenario's or even mini-campaign.

Furthermore there are ofcourse some stuff that can speed up the process:
- I still need to complete the Japanese list of ships involved
- Suggestions are welcome on the makeup of the OOB's for both the US and the Japanese
- General descriptions about the campaign and the battles to add some fluff to the OOB


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Naval War HQ replied the topic: Guadalcanal Battles

7 years 3 months ago

Here are the previews for the first two OOB's. The carrier lists for Eastern Solomons and Santa Cruz:

[<<Snip>>] Check below for the newer previews [<<Snip>>]


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Marqod replied the topic: Guadalcanal Battles

7 years 3 months ago

Nice.

I've already got USS Wasp. USS Washington, a pair of suitable cruisers and a triplet of suitable destroyers are also on their way, so I should be able to deploy an Eastern Solomons force in some time.

I'm also expexting the various non-carrier elements in here to pop up for the surface forces sent to fight around Ironbottom Sound once those orders of battle are set up.
Should be a really interesting set of lists.

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Naval War HQ replied the topic: Guadalcanal Battles

7 years 3 months ago

Ok, so here are the previews for the US fleet lists. As it looks now the US part of the Guadalcanal OoB will contain four fleet lists covering the battles from Savo Island all the way to the battle of Rennell Island.

Two major carrier lists to cover the battle of the Eastern Solomons and Santa Cruz Islands. Since most of the US Fleet carriers were involved here it opens up some nice possibilities for including Hornet, Enterprise and most importantly, Wasp in your games. It was the only possible fleet list to be able to include Wasp since she sank so early in the campaign.

(Also note the new layout for carriers and their airgroups)

<<Snip, finished OOB is up for download in the download section>>

Then of course there are the battles around Guadalcanal itself. I've managed to make one fleet lists that can cover any of the fleet actions around guadalcanal instead of making many tiny fleet lists. This should give some flexibility while still retaining the feel of a Guadalcanal cruiser force.

<<Snip, finished OOB is up for download in the download section>>

Finally I made a seperate fleet list for the battle of Rennell Island. I included it even though it was not much of a fleet action. Still, the lists sees the introduction of quite a different variety of ships including the cleveland class, the baby-flattops of the sangamon class and the first time the Fletcher class destroyers can be fielded in serious numbers.

<<Snip, finished OOB is up for download in the download section>>

All in all these lists greatly expand the US Navy in Naval War, increasing their fleet lists from 2 to 6. I'm looking forward to encountering them on the table :)

Now back to work on to the Japanese....


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Pugliese replied the topic: Guadalcanal Battles

7 years 3 months ago

Looks like fun! I've been wanting some way to get my North Carolina on the table, and now there's definitely one. Gives me an excuse to finally pick up some US carriers and some more destroyers now, that's not a very well developed part of my collection just yet.

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